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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Wed, October 12, 2005 - 11:34 PMFront 242 and FLA are why I became a rivethead, and I still love them. Of the newer school bands I'd say Suicide Commando, Glis, and Psyclon Nine are at the top of my list. -
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Mon, March 27, 2006 - 3:34 PMFront 242! when I heard Aggresiva, I couldnt stop plying it over and over again!
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Tue, March 28, 2006 - 2:56 PMYay, I finally get to post here!
Count me in for; Signal Aout 42(SA42), Cat Rapes Dog, Vomito Negro, Click Click, Borghesia, Insekt, Neon Judgement, Split Second, SPK,... And of COURSE - Front 242 and Nitzer Ebb.
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Tue, November 1, 2005 - 6:02 PMI love this question because about 50% of the bands people classify as "EBM" aren't really EBM. Seems like EBM covers a bunch of, (to my ears,) completely unrelated sub-genres, but as long as it's good, why the *&%! should I complain?
So I'll start with the older bands and then give some recommendations for *new*er bands, since new+good is always rare.
Older bands,...,
I'll have to agree that Front 242 is great. They have been the definition of EBM, traditionally, (probably because they named it).
If we have a *narrow* definition of EBM, which would include into sample-based, industrial'gothic music, then Leæther Strip's earlier works are *very* EBM'ish. I got into gothic'industrial music mostly because of Leæther Strip and similar acts. So that would be *my* personal favourite.
I don't know if we would count Polygon Window and Yellow as well, (I kinda throw them into the hybrid-beat world,) but they are two of my favourite, "older" bands.
Yes, Nitzer Ebb is on my top-10 list, (everybody should have a copy of "Ebbhead" for kicks). I'm not a huge Frontline Assembly fan, but Mr. Leeb has been one of the very influential people in the genre and deserves his due.
And as far as bands that are not pure EBM but I definitely love, Die Warzau is extremely EBMish at times and, quite surprisingly, some songs by Foetus reveal EBM influences to me, (it's that bass-line they use so f'n well). Oh yes, let's not forget The Electric Hellfire Club (without the guitar) on such songs as "Mr. 44," which are definitely EBMish, early Apop., and etc.
New bands/releases,...,
I am much more into DJing new bands/releases nowadays, and as far as new bands/releases are concerned, there is some great talent out there. I'd have to say that Spetsnaz is the most under-rated of the lesser-known EBM bands, (if you're more of an EBM traditionalist). Go and listen to their latest remixes.
There is also the new (and re-released) material from Fixmer and McCartney. It's obvious why that sounds so much like old-timey EBM and will please the older folks.
As far as talent is concerned, Olaf Wollschlager has some good, EBM-ish remixes. Don't even bother looking him up, just go out and *buy* anything you see that has a remix of his on it. He has remixed for bands such as Yellow, XP8, In Strict Confidence, and more. He also happens to be a really big producer. Definitely not *traditional*-traditional EBM, but well-done for industrial-dance or whatever it's called nowadays. If you are a DJ you must have some of him in your arsenal.
If you like the *lighter* side of the EBM coin, then perhaps the new releases by Code 64 or :SITD: are for you. It borders on that godforsaken subgenre that some hate called "Futurepop," but they are both fun bands that go-over well on a dancefloor.
Oh crap, the question said "favourite," not "favouriteS." Oh well, this 'ol timer do rant on, don't he?
Regards to all,
--G.D.
www.ClubDefiance.com
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Mon, December 5, 2005 - 7:35 PMThanks, yo!
A HUGE heads-up here... Spetsnaz has a new CD. If you like Nitzer Ebb, then you shouldn't even think about this one - BUY the CD!
--G.D.
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Wed, November 1, 2006 - 7:46 PMwhoa...
I think I just got schooled.
-DOTD
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:28 PMI just remember to ask the experts [Dante and/or adoc] why does noise/power noise and psychobilly gets combined with the gothic and industrial/ebm club nights? I ask this because I don't think they have anything in common. It would be like having Slayer and The Cramps play together. Please don't take this personal...
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Tue, December 6, 2005 - 12:02 PMApoptygma Berzerk was the band that introduced me to EBM and synthpop, although I'm not too crazy about their more recent work. My all time favourite is Project Pitchfork. -
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Wed, December 7, 2005 - 10:58 PMProject Pitchfork?!!?
HELL fucking yeah! Especially *early* Project Pitchfork, which at times sounds like a thrashing version of electronic-EBM'dustrial. I can definitely see where Apop would have learned a thing or two from P.Pitchfork's earlier material.
How many albums do they have now? 18?
--G.D.
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Tue, December 6, 2005 - 1:33 PMI'm a big advocate of the EBM being produced by David Carretta and The Hacker. You might put them in the techno/electro category, but much of their sound is definitely influenced by 242, Nitzer Ebb, etc.
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Sun, December 11, 2005 - 1:12 AMGreat!
To pick a handful
NitzerEbb(Holy Holy), front242,FLA,SITD,SovietRadio,Informatik,Accessory,AndOne,Assemblage23,BebornBetorn
Combichrist,Covenant,DasIch(Woohoo),ElectroSyntheticRebellion,Feindflug,Haujobb,
Hocico,Laibach,ImperativeReaction,SuicideCommando,Melotron,Novakill,RunlevelZero(Kick a$$) etc
If anyone is interesting in sharing the ebm's, Please let me know:) We can swap or share some interesting albums. -
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Sun, December 11, 2005 - 7:08 PMYou need Das Ich's latest album "Lava/Glut" (the one that came out in 2004).
And not the retail version - the promotional release. It's a work of art and VERY danceable.
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Tue, January 3, 2006 - 8:35 PMAssemblage23
Wolfshiem
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Mon, January 9, 2006 - 8:48 PMAssemblage23 and Wolfsheim
are bands whose material I've liked a lot but
EBM?
I wonder if I don't understand the definition of EBM.
I sort of assumed it was Industrial Music that was dance floor friendly.
A few years ago when Apop, Assemblage23, Wolfsheim, Wumpscutt, VNV Nation all had hits that were very popular in our local SC Goth scene I always assumed that it was EuroSynth music that had a 'gothy' feel (minor chords.........dark themes, et. al.).
It also seemed that the more industrially oriented music fans in our scene hated that music as being to 'pop' and too light.
Last year, I heard that Deathguild in SF was playing more EBM and Industrial and when I went up there, it didn't seem like they were playing any of those bands at all.
The music was harddriving, industrial sounding............mostly four on the floor rhythmically (which sometimes drives me nuts, the hegemony of four on the floor rhythms on the dance floor when there are so many funky rhythms out there to choose from) and fairly light on melody or harmony.
It was cool but I didn't know any of the bands.
So............................what the hell is EBM?
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Tue, January 10, 2006 - 7:25 PMMate, MHO is that you should listen to the Radio's for a while to understand the gamut's of styles and sub-genres. [EBM/BodyBeats]
Try Shoutcast, ebm.de, and do a google for the Internet stations. Once you get to listen Artists/bands/styles you will get to know what you like and your prefrences and then you can go ahead and spend the buck on the albums.
Just don't stick to one radio station; keep shuffling them. Otherwise, It's more like a propaganda to your aurals.
Few picks of stations:
www.ebm-radio.de/
www.digitalgunfire.com/
www.mpegradio.com/tormented/
www.biodustrial.com/
www.rantradio.com/
ampedout.net/
www.spiderpower.net/
www.immortalcontinuum.net/
more.. do a search on shoutcast servers.
Must for EBM
Nitzer EBB, C.A.P,Volt,Spetsnaz,Vomitnegro, Orange sector, Proceed, Run level Zero, Neuro Active, IonicVision. They all stand up for EBM and body beats .
As for people's rant that EBM being POP is utterly ridiculous. Nitzer Ebb would make you Mosh to hell, but anyway its subjective and very relative. I Stick to the old school and new stuff which deserves my strict aural and body attention, and Im safe, away from the gothic and pop influences. But, some pop influenced bands also make me dance, so it doesnt matter.
Enjoy yourself.
Assemblage23,wolfS,Apop,Vnv > they are not EBM. They might have few tracks which are good thats all.<Few, earlier apop's albums were ok>
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Wed, January 11, 2006 - 1:29 AMgreat response, thanks, Harish! I'll check it out.
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Wed, November 1, 2006 - 7:48 PMCOMBICHRI$T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Fri, July 7, 2006 - 2:27 PM(right now I am LOVING T.M.O.,,, and the old schooler that I am thought I'd never get into any new EBM bands! but they are fantastic)
This Morn' Omina
Front 242
Laibach
Severed Heads (can they catagorized as EBM? not sure hoe to classify them)
Juno Reactor
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Wed, November 1, 2006 - 7:08 AMBeen listening to Spahn Ranch rather much lately specifically from the "Blackmailers Starter Kit" and "Architecture". I love the fact the Nitzer Ebb (yes they are my FAVE!!) has re-united, for the present - rubs hands together vigorously, hoping some new material surfaces - besides this, as far as an EBM roll call, I got my ears around: Combichrist, Armageddon Dildos, D.A.F., Good Courage, Front 242 and Test Dept (Totality).
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Wed, November 1, 2006 - 7:48 AMAre we counting Funker Vogt as EBM? They're a bit, newer, but still... I like em a lot. And yea, I've always thought Apop. was synthpop/futurepop, didn't they classify themselves as that a while back too? -
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Fri, January 19, 2007 - 9:54 AMYeah I think Funker Vogt are EBM, in fact their one of my favourites.....and Suicide Commando he he
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Thu, March 22, 2007 - 10:58 AMok, well what defines EBM? what do the letters even mean? Does Covenant count? I have been curious as to what EBM means, and noone I know can explain it to me! -
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Wed, March 28, 2007 - 4:14 PMElectronic Body Music. The phrase was scratched into the inner ring of the early Front 242 12" EP 'No Comment".
The wikipedia page on EBM is a good one:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elec...body_music
I personally don't consider Covenant EBM, but some people do. Covenant are Futurepop, which evolved from EBM. I consider Futurepop a separate genre, but some people consider Futurepop more a form/subgenre of EBM. That's really just a matter of personal opinion though.
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:11 PMEBM stands for: ELECTRO BODY MOVEMENT. Covenant is more like a futurepop/synthpop band but they're the best. -
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Sat, February 23, 2008 - 12:24 PMNo, it stand for Electronic Body Music.
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:09 PMif I have to mention only one it would be... [NITZER EBB]
but I will name a few more: Laibac, S.I.T.D., Front 242, Decoded, Seabound, Frontline and more -
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Sun, February 24, 2008 - 2:15 AMThanks, Max/min, that wikepedia article was excellent.
Here it is reprinted for anyone who doesn't feel like going there:
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Electronic body music
Stylistic origins: industrial music, electropunk
Cultural origins: Early 1980s, Belgium, United Kingdom, Germany, Canada
Typical instruments: synthesizer - drum machine - sequencer - keyboard - sampler
Mainstream popularity: Small
Derivative forms: new beat - goa trance - electro-industrial - dark electro
Subgenres
Other topics
List of electronic and industrial music artists
Electronic body music (mainly known by its acronym EBM) is a music genre that combines elements of industrial music and electronic punk music.
Emerging in the early-to-mid 1980s, the genre's early influences range from the industrial music of the time (Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire), European electropunk (DAF, Liaisons Dangereuses, Portion Control) and straight-ahead electronic music (Kraftwerk).
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* 1 Characteristics
* 2 Etymology
* 3 History
o 3.1 1981-1993
o 3.2 Developments
o 3.3 The Revival
* 4 Influence
* 5 Notable EBM Artists
* 6 Samples
* 7 See also
* 8 References
* 9 External links
[edit] Characteristics
Inside covers of the 1988 Wax Trax! CD rerelease of No Comment by Front 242 including reprint of reference to electronic body music.
Inside covers of the 1988 Wax Trax! CD rerelease of No Comment by Front 242 including reprint of reference to electronic body music.
The style was characterized by hard and often sparse danceable electronic beats, clear undistorted vocals, shouts or growls with reverberation and echo effects, and repetitive sequencer lines. At this time important synthesizers were Korg MS-20, Emulator II, Oberheim Matrix or the Yamaha DX7. Typical EBM rhythms are based on 4/4 beats, mainly with some minor syncopation to suggest a rock music rhythm structure.
[edit] Etymology
The term electronic body music was coined by Ralf Hütter of the German electronic band Kraftwerk in 1978 to explain the more physical sound of their album The Man-Machine.[1]
The term was later used in its current sense by Belgian band Front 242 in 1984 to describe the music of their EP No Comment, released in the same year.[2]
A few years before, DAF from Germany used the term "Körpermusik" (body music) in an interview to describe their danceable electronic punk sound.
Another term that has been used to refer to EBM is aggrepo, a contraction of "aggressive pop", mainly used in Germany in the late 1980s.
[edit] History
[edit] 1981-1993
In the early 1980s artists like Front 242 and Nitzer Ebb (both influenced by acts such as Deutsch-Amerikanische Freundschaft, Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle) started to combine German electropunk with elements of the British industrial music. The result of this mixture was a straight danceable sound that was called EBM back in 1984. Notable EBM albums include Front 242's "Official Version" and Nitzer Ebb's "That Total Age", both released in 1987. In the second half of the 1980s, American and Canadian music groups such as Front Line Assembly, Ministry[citation needed], Batz Without Flesh or Schnitt Acht started to use typical European EBM elements. They combined these elements with the roughness of American post-industrial music (Revolting Cocks).
Shortly after, a handful of bands such as Nine Inch Nails created a more rock-oriented style under the influence of EBM synths and sequences. The most well-known result was released in 1989 under the name Head Like A Hole.
Meanwhile EBM became popular in the underground club scene, particularly in Europe. In this period the most important labels were the Belgian PIAS, Antler-Subway and KK Records, the German Animalized, Techno Drome International and Zoth Ommog, the North American Wax Trax! and the Swedish labels Front Music Production and Energy (later merged to Energy Rekords).
Other artists besides Front 242 and Nitzer Ebb were Die Krupps, Vomito Negro, Signal Aout 42, Insekt, Force Dimension, Bigod 20 and Electro Assassin.
A few other groups were A Split-Second (a Belgian electro-rock/new beat act), AAAK, The Weathermen, The Klinik, Borghesia, The Neon Judgement, Attrition or Philadelphia Five. These acts produced some genre-typical songs, although they were not EBM groups.
Between the early and the mid 1990s, many EBM artists split up or changed their musical style and began to borrow more distorted industrial elements or elements of rock music or metal. The album Tyranny For You and following albums from the pioneers Front 242 initiated the end of the EBM epoch of the 1980s. Nitzer Ebb, one of the most important artists, became a simply electronic rock band. Without the strength of its figureheads, the original electronic body music finally faded by the mid-1990s.
[edit] Developments
New groups, such as Leæther Strip, :wumpscut:, and Suicide Commando, combined harsh distorted beats with synthesizer-driven melodies. What to term this evolution of the EBM genre is somewhat controversial, with artists, labels, and the music press using either simply the term EBM, or else alternate terms such as electro-industrial, [3] or especially in Germany and South America, elektro. Other notable artists of this era include Allied Vision, Psychopomps, Controlled Fusion, early Decoded Feedback, and NVMPH.
A second developed genre at this time was dark electro. Dark electro combined sinister electronic soundscapes with grunts or growling vocals with a special attention to despair. Important artists were yelworC, Mortal Constraint, Trial, and Tri-state.
[edit] The Revival
In the late 1990s and after the millennium, especially Swedish and German groups such as Spetsnaz, Dupont, C.A.P. and Proceed have gone the way by reproducing the old EBM style with some releases in the new millennium.
[edit] Influence
Some EBM artists also had an influence on many New beat and Goa trance artists (e.g. Juno Reactor, Astral Projection, Eon Project).
By the late 1990s, a number of artists from the European techno scene, such as Terence Fixmer, Thomas P. Heckmann and David Carretta, started including more elements of EBM in their sound. In the United States, Adam X moved in the same direction. This tendency grew in parallel with the emerging electroclash scene and, as that scene started to decline, a number of artists associated with it, particularly The Hacker, moved towards this techno/EBM crossover style.
There has been increasing convergence between this scene and the old school EBM scene. Bands and artists have remixed each other and, most notably, Terence Fixmer joined with Nitzer Ebb's Douglas McCarthy to form Fixmer/McCarthy. -
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Sun, February 24, 2008 - 2:31 AMand it's efficacious to read the disputed posts on the talk page........which is a LONG read.
This is always such a tough thing...................ask anyone their definition of an electronic music genre or subgenre
and you'll get a completely different answer.
There are so many different definitions and people are generally pretty aggro in their opinions and dismissive
of anyone who has a different definition.
I was deeply into world ethnic fusion music for 25 years, though, and you find the same kinds of arguments that
occur around styles, spin off styles. There it gets so detailed that you'll have subgenres (fuji garbage as an example)
that there are only one or two groups in them.
The arguments are at least educational and interesting on the talk page of the wiki article.
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Re: What's you favourite EBM band?
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 9:26 PMI'm surprised to see that one of my favorite bands was not mentioned. I've always felt that the German band D.A.F. or Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft were the embodiment of EBM and a major inspiration for the later Belgian band Front 242. Both Fantastic in my book. Alles Ist Gut, Für Immer, Gold Und Liebe (Verschwende Deine Jugend!) and the amazing 12" Der Mussolini are classics of the genre and predated Front 242 by a bit.
Once again I guess it all depends on your definition of EBM, but I was also very fond of Die Krupps and Portion Control (raise the pulse).
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Mon, March 17, 2008 - 4:28 AMSince I was actually around spinning this stuff at the time. I thought I'd add a couple more of my faves here. The early Test Department stuff was brilliant. Specifically Compulsion and Beating the Retreat. I kind of skimmed through the list so I don't know if these were mentioned or not. But Scraping Foetus off the wheel - Hole and Nail should probably figure on this list somewhere. As well as Fad Gadget... These might be more"Industrial" than "EBM" or maybe even pre-EBM, it seems like everyone has a slightly different definition, not to mention the definitions change over time.
~SP
Currently having fun tracking down all this old stuff and going broke in the process. It's all good, I need to lose weight anyway.
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